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Another reason you'll need to work to age 67 . . . .
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ConsЯcons
2012-11-08 05:21:59 UTC
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Seems Ottawa is considering giving the Old Age Security to people who've
lived in Canada for only THREE years, instead of the current 10-year
requirement. Nice. Courting the vote of those they let in by the
250,000 per year . . . .

If you care, you know how to send an email to the Liberals in Ottawa. CC
Diane Finley and Harper and ask them why they're supporting a Bill like
this when they're also bringing in 250,000 immigrants a year. If
she/they are so concerned, they wouldn't be bringing in 62+ aged parents
and grandparents as immigrants.

Is this their version of 'catering to the Latino vote' that we're now
reading about in the U.S. election? Looks like it.
_______________________________________________

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012


Subject: FW: Bill C-428 OAS Pension - 2nd reading 2012 - Very Interesting
BILL C-428 OAS PENSION-2ND READING 2012
LETS HOPE THAT IT GETS DEFEATED...........................
THIS IS IMPORTANT - 2ND READIFNG COMING UP. PLEASE READ RIGHT TO
THE END AS THIS IS NOT A REPEAT ........ THIS IS NOW AS PARLIAMENT
RECONVENES FROM THEIR SUMMER VACATION 2012.. THERE ARE TWO ITEMS
YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL HASN'T BEEN TOTALLY DEFEATED YET!!!!!
FROM: THE HON. DIANE FINLEY P.C.M.P., MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCES
AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT
I AM PLEASED TO RESPOND TO YOUR ELECTRONIC MESSAGE WHICH WAS
FORWARDED TO ME BY THE OFFICE OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE RIGHT
HONOURABLE STEPHEN HARPER REGARDING PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL C-428.
AS YOU KNOW BILL C-428 PROPOSES TO AMEND THE OLD AGE
SECURITY ACT TO REDUCE THE RESIDENCE REQUIREMENT FOR ENTITLEMENT TO
A MONTHLY PENSION FROM TEN YEARS TO THREE YEARS. THIS PRIVATE
MEMBER'S BILL WAS INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS BY M.P. RUBY
DHALLAA LIBERAL OPPOSITION MEMBER.
AS THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE I HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT
WHEN THIS BILL
COMES FORWARD WE WILL STRONGLY OPPOSE IT.
THE OLD AGE SECURITY (OAS) PENSION IS PAID TO SENIORS IN
RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THEY HAVE MADE TO CANADIAN
SOCIETY THE ECONOMY AND THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE OAS PROGRAM IS NON-CONTRIBUTORY AND IS BASED SOLELY ON AGE AND
RESIDENCE IN CANADA AFTER THE AGE OF 18. THE TEN-YEAR RESIDENCE
RULE IS CONSISTENT WITH MANY OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE RESIDENCE OR
CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR NATIONAL PENSIONS
TO ENSURE THAT BENEFITS ARE GIVEN IN PROPORTION TO YEARS OF
RESIDENCE OR AFFILIATION WITH THEIR PENSION PROGRAMS.
WITH THIS IN MIND IT IS FELT THAT THE CURRENT TEN-YEAR RESIDENCE
REQUIREMENT REPRESENTS A BALANCE BETWEEN A REASONABLE CONTRIBUTION
TO CANADIAN SOCIETY AND THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE A LIFELONG PENSION.
IT IS ESTIMATED THAT REDUCING THE TEN-YEAR ELIGIBILITY
REQUIREMENT TO THREE YEARS WOULD COST OVER 0 MILLION ANNUALLY IN
ADDITIONAL OAS AND GUARANTEED INCOME SUPPLEMENT BENEFITS. GIVEN
THAT THE OAS PROGRAM IS FUNDED ENTIRELY FROM GENERAL TAX REVENUES
THIS WOULD BE COSTLY AND PLACE AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THE CANADIAN
TAXPAYER.
YOURS SINCERELY
THE HON. DIANE FINLEY
P.C.M.P.
MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT
DON'T QUIT YET ......................
BILL #C-428 [THANKS TO RUBY DHALLA AND BOB RAE]
ONLY IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS BILL ... PASS THIS MESSAGE ALONG.
THIS BILL SHOULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY ... AND YET IT WILL
RECEIVE SECOND READING AT THE NEXT SITTING OF PARLIAMENT.
PLEASE READ THE BILL AND MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION. IF YOU DISAGREE
WITH THE BILL
SEND THIS TO EVERYONE OVER THE AGE OF 50 IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK ... OR
THOSE WHO MAY BE TURNING 50 A FEW YEARS
HOPEFULLY BY LETTING YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT KNOW YOUR FEELINGS ON
THE BILL IT WILL BE DEFEATED.
IF YOU AGREE WITH THE BILL YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING..
BILL C-428 WILL ALLOW RECENT IMMIGRANTS TO APPLY FOR OAS IN 3 YEARS
INSTEAD OF THE EXISTING 10.
THIS BILL HAD FIRST READING IN THE HOUSE ON JUNE 18, 2009. IT WAS
SECONDED BY BOB RAE! MP MS RUBY DHALLA WHO INTRODUCED THE BILL
REPRESENTS THE RIDING OF BRAMPTON WHOSE POPULATION IS MAINLY EAST
INDIAN.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVED IN CANADA FOR 10 YEARS IN
ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR OLD AGE SECURITY. SHE WANTS THE TIME REDUCED
TO 3 YEARS.
THOUSANDS COULD COME TO CANADA WHEN THEY ARE 62 YEARS OLD NEVER
HAVING WORKED OR CONTRIBUTED TO THIS COUNTRY'S TAX SYSTEM ETC AND
QUALIFY FOR FULL OLD AGE SECURITY BENEFITS.
10 YEARS MINIMUM IS REASONABLE - 3 IS NOT!
LOOK THIS UP GOOGLE C-428 AND YOU WILL SEE THIS BILL HAS ONLY ONE
PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO 'FEATHERBED' A SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE FOR
VOTES.
I CERTAINLY HOPE THIS BILL DOES NOT GET PASSED. IT IS ABOUT TIME WE
CALLED OUR ELECTED MP'S TO ASK THEM TO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THEIR RESPONSE MAY BE ONE FACTOR IN HELPING US DETERMINE WHO GETS
ELECTED IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
Chom Noamsky
2012-11-08 05:32:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by ConsЯcons
Seems Ottawa is considering giving the Old Age Security to people who've
lived in Canada for only THREE years, instead of the current 10-year
requirement. Nice. Courting the vote of those they let in by the
250,000 per year . . . .
If you care, you know how to send an email to the Liberals in Ottawa. CC
Diane Finley and Harper and ask them why they're supporting a Bill like
this when they're also bringing in 250,000 immigrants a year. If
she/they are so concerned, they wouldn't be bringing in 62+ aged parents
and grandparents as immigrants.
Is this their version of 'catering to the Latino vote' that we're now
reading about in the U.S. election? Looks like it.
You're just angry because they beat the Liberals to it.
Karen Gordon
2012-11-08 05:47:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by ConsЯcons
Seems Ottawa is considering giving the Old Age Security to people who've
lived in Canada for only THREE years, instead of the current 10-year
requirement. Nice. Courting the vote of those they let in by the
250,000 per year . . . .
If you care, you know how to send an email to the Liberals in Ottawa. CC
Diane Finley and Harper and ask them why they're supporting a Bill like
this when they're also bringing in 250,000 immigrants a year. If
she/they are so concerned, they wouldn't be bringing in 62+ aged parents
and grandparents as immigrants.
Is this their version of 'catering to the Latino vote' that we're now
reading about in the U.S. election? Looks like it.
_______________________________________________
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012
Subject: FW: Bill C-428 OAS Pension - 2nd reading 2012 - Very Interesting
BILL C-428 OAS PENSION-2ND READING 2012
LETS HOPE THAT IT GETS DEFEATED...........................
THIS IS IMPORTANT - 2ND READIFNG COMING UP. PLEASE READ RIGHT TO
THE END AS THIS IS NOT A REPEAT ........ THIS IS NOW AS PARLIAMENT
RECONVENES FROM THEIR SUMMER VACATION 2012.. THERE ARE TWO ITEMS
YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL HASN'T BEEN TOTALLY DEFEATED YET!!!!!
FROM: THE HON. DIANE FINLEY P.C.M.P., MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCES
AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT
I AM PLEASED TO RESPOND TO YOUR ELECTRONIC MESSAGE WHICH WAS
FORWARDED TO ME BY THE OFFICE OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE RIGHT
HONOURABLE STEPHEN HARPER REGARDING PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL C-428.
AS YOU KNOW BILL C-428 PROPOSES TO AMEND THE OLD AGE
SECURITY ACT TO REDUCE THE RESIDENCE REQUIREMENT FOR ENTITLEMENT TO
A MONTHLY PENSION FROM TEN YEARS TO THREE YEARS. THIS PRIVATE
MEMBER'S BILL WAS INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS BY M.P. RUBY
DHALLAA LIBERAL OPPOSITION MEMBER.
AS THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE I HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT
WHEN THIS BILL
COMES FORWARD WE WILL STRONGLY OPPOSE IT.
THE OLD AGE SECURITY (OAS) PENSION IS PAID TO SENIORS IN
RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THEY HAVE MADE TO CANADIAN
SOCIETY THE ECONOMY AND THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE OAS PROGRAM IS NON-CONTRIBUTORY AND IS BASED SOLELY ON AGE AND
RESIDENCE IN CANADA AFTER THE AGE OF 18. THE TEN-YEAR RESIDENCE
RULE IS CONSISTENT WITH MANY OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE RESIDENCE OR
CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR NATIONAL PENSIONS
TO ENSURE THAT BENEFITS ARE GIVEN IN PROPORTION TO YEARS OF
RESIDENCE OR AFFILIATION WITH THEIR PENSION PROGRAMS.
WITH THIS IN MIND IT IS FELT THAT THE CURRENT TEN-YEAR RESIDENCE
REQUIREMENT REPRESENTS A BALANCE BETWEEN A REASONABLE CONTRIBUTION
TO CANADIAN SOCIETY AND THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE A LIFELONG PENSION.
IT IS ESTIMATED THAT REDUCING THE TEN-YEAR ELIGIBILITY
REQUIREMENT TO THREE YEARS WOULD COST OVER 0 MILLION ANNUALLY IN
ADDITIONAL OAS AND GUARANTEED INCOME SUPPLEMENT BENEFITS. GIVEN
THAT THE OAS PROGRAM IS FUNDED ENTIRELY FROM GENERAL TAX REVENUES
THIS WOULD BE COSTLY AND PLACE AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THE CANADIAN
TAXPAYER.
YOURS SINCERELY
THE HON. DIANE FINLEY
P.C.M.P.
MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT
DON'T QUIT YET ......................
BILL #C-428 [THANKS TO RUBY DHALLA AND BOB RAE]
ONLY IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS BILL ... PASS THIS MESSAGE ALONG.
THIS BILL SHOULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY ... AND YET IT WILL
RECEIVE SECOND READING AT THE NEXT SITTING OF PARLIAMENT.
PLEASE READ THE BILL AND MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION. IF YOU DISAGREE
WITH THE BILL
SEND THIS TO EVERYONE OVER THE AGE OF 50 IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK ... OR
THOSE WHO MAY BE TURNING 50 A FEW YEARS
HOPEFULLY BY LETTING YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT KNOW YOUR FEELINGS ON
THE BILL IT WILL BE DEFEATED.
IF YOU AGREE WITH THE BILL YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING..
BILL C-428 WILL ALLOW RECENT IMMIGRANTS TO APPLY FOR OAS IN 3 YEARS
INSTEAD OF THE EXISTING 10.
THIS BILL HAD FIRST READING IN THE HOUSE ON JUNE 18, 2009. IT WAS
SECONDED BY BOB RAE! MP MS RUBY DHALLA WHO INTRODUCED THE BILL
REPRESENTS THE RIDING OF BRAMPTON WHOSE POPULATION IS MAINLY EAST
INDIAN.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVED IN CANADA FOR 10 YEARS IN
ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR OLD AGE SECURITY. SHE WANTS THE TIME REDUCED
TO 3 YEARS.
THOUSANDS COULD COME TO CANADA WHEN THEY ARE 62 YEARS OLD NEVER
HAVING WORKED OR CONTRIBUTED TO THIS COUNTRY'S TAX SYSTEM ETC AND
QUALIFY FOR FULL OLD AGE SECURITY BENEFITS.
10 YEARS MINIMUM IS REASONABLE - 3 IS NOT!
LOOK THIS UP GOOGLE C-428 AND YOU WILL SEE THIS BILL HAS ONLY ONE
PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO 'FEATHERBED' A SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE FOR
VOTES.
I CERTAINLY HOPE THIS BILL DOES NOT GET PASSED. IT IS ABOUT TIME WE
CALLED OUR ELECTED MP'S TO ASK THEM TO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THEIR RESPONSE MAY BE ONE FACTOR IN HELPING US DETERMINE WHO GETS
ELECTED IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
M.I.Wakefield
2012-11-08 13:39:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by ConsЯcons
Seems Ottawa is considering giving the Old Age Security to people who've
lived in Canada for only THREE years, instead of the current 10-year
requirement. Nice. Courting the vote of those they let in by the 250,000
per year . . . .
If you care, you know how to send an email to the Liberals in Ottawa. CC
Diane Finley and Harper and ask them why they're supporting a Bill like
this when they're also bringing in 250,000 immigrants a year. If she/they
are so concerned, they wouldn't be bringing in 62+ aged parents and
grandparents as immigrants.
Is this their version of 'catering to the Latino vote' that we're now
reading about in the U.S. election? Looks like it.
Hold on ... Ruby Dhalla's ass got punted at the last election ... Karen got
trolled!

The current C-428 is a private member's bill dealing with the Indian Act.
ConsЯcons
2012-11-09 01:08:51 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
Hold on ... Ruby Dhalla's ass got punted at the last election ... Karen
got trolled!
The current C-428 is a private member's bill dealing with the Indian Act.
Depends on which decade you're refering to, Dobranski.

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